total noob, need help setting up website

@KrunchApr 09.2004

Hi, i’ve been reading thru these forums trying to get an idea on what I need to do to get my website working but i’m getting overwhelmed… I’ve been doing alot of research into html programing and have learned a decent amount, but not nearly enough to set up the kind of website I want to set up. As the subject matter implies, I am a noob at this…

Heres the situation, hope someone would be gracious enuf 2 help out a pitifull noob ?

I am an online gamer mainly, my clan rented a gaming server recently and with it, came free webhosting. Before this, we were using “art of war central” free webhosting which came complete with a basic customizable website already made and installed.
Little did I know that “web hosting” actually meant that they provide you with the space, but u need to move in to it lol. So i’m left with an already registered domain name for our clan, and a blank, empty website. I have absolutely no idea how to get a website working from scratch, that is my problem at this point.

I have downloaded a few complete website templates, and found one I want to use and have been customizing it to the best of my abilities, but I dont know how to make it “work” on the website, how to install it or anything.
One thing I want to do is add a post and reply forum section to this template as it has none, also want to make it so that when someone registers with our new website, they are added to a “new members” list automaticly, where the website would do that and update the new members list itself.
The website template i’m using is basic, it doesnt have a registration ability as far as I know so that would have to be created.

I cant offer much in trade, but I will give FULL credit in the website to anyone who helps me bring this baby alive and working properly, and would totally appreciate any help.

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I know it is a big task, and wouldnt blame anyone for not helping me out. But I am indeed stuck, my abilities in this field are limited, and am in dire need of assistance. Any help would be graciously and greatly appreciated.

I’ve included the website template set i’ve been working on as an attatchment if it helps.

Regards,
Krunch

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@PeOfEoApr 09.2004 — #[i]Originally posted by Krunch [/i]

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I cant offer much in trade, but I will give FULL credit in the website to anyone who helps me bring this baby alive and working properly, and would totally appreciate any help.

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To get a decent looking post and reply forum section with smileys enabled, working.

To get a new user registration system automated and working.

To get all email links and contact links working.

To get a "downloads" section working for guests to download our costom game mods.

To get a file uploading system working so users can upload their mods as well.

To get website email system working, instant messaging between website users.

To get a finalized and working website online and ready for use.[/B][/QUOTE] That is a TON of work, no one is going to do it for free. Also that is not html that would require a server side language and none of us know what your server supports. We can help you learn how to set it up, but custumb scripting is going to cost you some cash, a name at the bottom is not going to cut it with anyone worth their salt. You are talking about a forum/blogh which is a bit of code, a registration and login system, a file system, and an email system... I would say find a premade community with either phpnuke or .net nuke.

@KrunchauthorApr 09.2004 — #unsure why the attatchment didnt post, it's 3mb, i'll try again...

@KrunchauthorApr 09.2004 — #Well, like I said, I dont know much about this.

So..... where do I begin?

@akadisApr 09.2004 — #well i would concider posibly using a Content Management System

in case u dont know a Content management sysetm (CMS) is:

Software that enables one to add and/or manipulate content on a Web site. Typically, a CMS consists of two elements: the content management application (CMA) and the content delivery application (CDA). The CMA element allows the content manager or author, who may not know HTML, to manage the creation, modification, and removal of content from a Web site without needing the expertise of a Webmaster. The CDA element uses and compiles that information to update the Web site. The features of a CMS system vary, but most include Web-based publishing, format management, revision control, and indexing, search, and retrieval.

[/QUOTE] [URL=http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Content+Management+System+definition]source[/URL]

many CMS have mods that allow you to do much of what you want, requirements for them usally are php and mysql databases, they are easy to use and can be fun! and are (tipically) free - the downside is that it probably wont have that cool theme avalible that u found unless u pay someone to make one!

hope this is helpful

@PeOfEoApr 09.2004 — #Krunch, the first thing you need to know is that what you wan't to do cannot be done with html, you need a server side lang. You need to figure out which of the many your server supports. Contact the server admin or look int he faq.

options are: ASP ASP.NET PHP JSP CGI cold fusion.

@KrunchauthorApr 10.2004 — #roger that, sent an email asking that question, i'll post when I get an answer, thanx ?

@KrunchauthorApr 10.2004 — #I recieved an email back, they said my webserver will read all the languages.

I was reading what was installed in my webserver, here's that info if it helps:

Apache version 1.3.29 (Unix)

MySQL version 4.0.18

PHP version 4.3.4

PERL version 5.6.1

Cpanel version 9.1.0

(Cpanel is what I use to graphicly view the webservers different settings and options that I can change)

Now what lol ?

Thanx 4 the help btw ?

Krunch

@buntineApr 10.2004 — #If they said it supports all server-side languages; they are wrong..

I would suggest you buy a book on HTML and mayby consider buying one on PHP or CGI..

What you are trying to achieve is lots of work.. About $7,000 worth! The good thing is, you can do it yourself for free, though, if you have no prior programming experience, your in for a good 10 months of programming practise before you can pull something like this off. It will be fun! ?

Please, learn something about programming concepts before you delve into the code. So many people come to these forums and ask questions which are so completely illogical simply because they dont understand how computer programming works.

Regards,

Andrew Buntine.

@PeOfEoApr 10.2004 — #www.phpnuke.com use that to make your site if you do not want to set this up yourself.

@KrunchauthorApr 10.2004 — #Thanx for the help Buntine, but you can lose the condicending attitude, dont need it, not appreciated. Dont mean to be an ass, just would rather not "beat around the bush" if u know what I mean.

Anyway, i'm a very fast learner wont take me 10 months. If I could teach myself to rebuild an engine, build a computer and fix electronics, I can learn how to do this quickly, I already have learned quite a bit and am close to actually publishing my site, just mainly need help with the forum part of it.

I've got what I came for, dont need anymore help, specially if your telling me to learn about what i'm trying to learn about... THAT seems both redundant AND "illogical" doesnt it? lol

Moderator or not, doesnt give you the okay to be condicending... You are a man, just like myself. No better, no worse. We are all trying to learn, that is why this forum is hear isnt it? Maybe i'm taking it wrong, dunno and frankly dont care really. I'm obviously not going to get the help I need here, so i'll move on. Delete this forum if you like, dont matter to me, I wont be back.

L8rZ

@PeOfEoApr 10.2004 — #[i]Originally posted by Krunch [/i]

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Anyway, i'm a very fast learner wont take me 10 months. If I could teach myself to rebuild an engine, build a computer and fix electronics, I can learn how to do this quickly, I already have learned quite a bit and am close to actually publishing my site, just mainly need help with the forum part of it.

[/B][/QUOTE] Dude it took me 4 - 5 months to learn asp.net with 2 years of vb experience and a book. You can't learn a lang over night. He was not being condisending so why not be greatful for your getting help. We do not help others for our health.

I'm obviously not going to get the help I need here, so i'll move on. Delete this forum if you like, dont matter to me, I wont be back
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oh please will someone do everything for me, oh please. No your right you will not get that kind of help here.

btw: I have made 3 comps, its not hard, and I have worked on my car lawn mower and leaf blower, mechanics and electronics are not hard... codeing can be.

@buntineApr 10.2004 — #lol... From the way you speak, it seems it would take you several years to get a working knowledge of computer programming..

I was actually trying to help you out. Though, your obviously not willing to learn.

Im a fast learner too, i was programming for over 10 months before i could achieve something of this magnitude. I dont care how much of a [i]genius[/i] you think you are, this will take you a long time to master.

@buntineApr 10.2004 — #Infact, i just looked over my initial post and dont know what your angry about.. All i did was tell you what your going to have to do in order to learn how to write web applications...

What exactly did i say that angered you?

@PeOfEoApr 10.2004 — #like I said before I have known vb forever and picking up the asp.net with vb.net did not sound like it would take any time, it took me months and moths to get good with it.

@rpassmoreApr 12.2004 — #bah....he probably won't read this....but I felt the urge to add my 2 cents and past experience here:

[b]"To get a decent looking post and reply forum section with smileys enabled, working."[/b]

there are a few free message forums you can use, and with some $$ can be upgraded to inlcude more coolies, inlcuding lack of banner ads. goto www.lumensolis.com, it's a gaming guild I was a member of...I can't remember what forums they used, but they are a free/upgradable type...worked good.

[b]"To get a new user registration system automated and working."[/b]

hmm...I have no experience with registration/passwords for a website, but for forums, the above works good.

[b]"To get all email links and contact links working."[/b]

I'd think anyone could do this...could be as simple as a table with member names/bios/characters/email/icq,aim,yahoo, etc.?

[b]"To get a "downloads" section working for guests to download our costom game mods."[/b]

Like the email/contact links page...this shouldn't be too hard to setup...

[b]"To get a file uploading system working so users can upload their mods as well."[/b]

if you are in a guild large enough to warrant a site of this complexity (including upload/downloads, membership management)...I'd assume you'd have different people handling the administrative roles. simply appoint one of them in charge of uploading mods..and instruct members to email their mods to this person. personally...I think this would be better logistically then to allow all members access to upload to your server.

[b]"To get website email system working, instant messaging between website users. "[/b]

instant messaging can easily be done via icq/aim/yahoochat/etc....after being in a 150+ member guild..I decided to start using "trillian"...the best and only chat program imho (it does all of your popular chat programs, including IRC, and checks all email accounts that you might have too). As for email...get a hosting service that allows up to 100 emails...and supply guild emails to actual 'members' only. (I'm assuming you have some sort of probation period where members are considered recruits). if you run over that number, most hosting providers will allow you to purchase more. of course....you could just use a members own email, and provide the address on your site in your members section.

[b]"To get a finalized and working website online and ready for use."[/b]

If you have no website experience...although this might open me up to some flames....I'd suggest picking up a wysiwyg program like frontpage2003, dreamweaver or whatever else you'd prefer to do the majority of the layout..and actually, I use frontpage2003 to help me manage and organize my site...while most of the coding I do by hand in the "code" view.

@PeOfEoApr 12.2004 — #[i]Originally posted by rpassmore [/i]I'd suggest picking up a wysiwyg program like frontpage2003, dreamweaver or whatever else you'd prefer to do the majority of the layout..and actually, I use frontpage2003 to help me manage and organize my site...while most of the coding I do by hand in the "code" view. [/B][/QUOTE] No more talking from you. Using a wysiwyg is no alternative for learning html and css, its not hard. If you use a wysiwyg you will get a static site that will not go cross platform.

@rpassmoreApr 13.2004 — #"If you use a wysiwyg you will get a static site that will not go cross platform."

Please give some coding examples.

but...I agree on the html/css thing. after thinking of it, I've been using them less and less, virtually not at all for the coding of the sites.

However, I still use them for their site management use. They catch any open tags, inverted tags, typos, etc. Also, if I change the name of a page or link, or image, etc., Frontpage will go through and update all the references to that object. Kind of spiffy I think.

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