Hello all.
I’ve been doing a website and have got to the testing it in other browsers stage. Was nicely surprised that it displayed perfectly in IE 5, 5.5, 6.0, Mozilla, Opera and Netscape 7.1 after about 10 minutes of tweaking. But Netscape 6.0 and 6.2 are throwing up really irratic behaviour things that has already taken up a bit of my time. So irratic that I don’t think it can be fixed even though everything validates.
However, my question is this, should I even bother with these browsers? Does anyone still use these things? I have to say that when viewing my site stats I’ve never seen that anyone has viewed my sites with these old beasts so should I let it lie? Just like to know what people think ? .
Cheers,
R
[i]Originally posted by rhsunderground [/i]Why not just use the resize feature of the webdeveloper's toolbar, or change your own resolution?
[B]there is one more thing to consider: screen resolution. there is a website with a tester to see your site in different resolutions, yet when i got my new hard drive, i lost my bookmarks. does anybody else have that link?[/B][/QUOTE]
[i]Originally posted by Ben R. [/i]Or just manually change your resolution when you resolution text on ie.
[B]Why not just use the resize feature of the webdeveloper's toolbar, or change your own resolution? [/B][/QUOTE]
[i]Originally posted by Ben R. [/i]
[B]...change your own resolution...[/B][/QUOTE]
[i]Originally posted by PeOfEo [/i]Er...?
[B]...change your resolution...[/B][/QUOTE]
[i]Originally posted by Ben R. [/i]rhs was talking about a webbased resolution changer, you were talking about a tool bar, I was talking about just go on your desktop right click -> properties -> settings -> change the res. Its not hard to do that. You have 30 seconds to look at the site in the new res, scroll around a bit, then it is going to go back to the way it was before automatically.
[B]Er...? [/B][/QUOTE]
[i]Originally posted by PeOfEo [/i]I was as well; I had referred to both. Guess I wasn't very clear, ah well. *Drops the subject.*
[B]rhs was talking about a webbased resolution changer, you were talking about a tool bar, I was talking about just go on your desktop right click -> properties -> settings -> change the res. Its not hard to do that. You have 30 seconds to look at the site in the new res, scroll around a bit, then it is going to go back to the way it was before automatically. [/B][/QUOTE]
[i]Originally posted by richiebman [/i]The bottom line is that it will never look the same on every browser so coding to standards in a way that you know will gracefully degrade on the older browsers is the most efficient strategy. The more the site emphasizes presentation over content (more HTML/CSS layout tricks) the more you'll wind up having to restrict the range of browsers that view it as the designer intends. Each non-standard browser added to the supported list could easily redouble the per-page effort.
[B]That's very true ray326 and what I actually do. I write correct code (as best I can) and view it in Firefox, and then a lot later on test in other browsers. But even though it was correct Netscape still managed to mess it up. I guess what I am also asking is should I should test and tweak for Netscape 6.0 and 6.2? If no one is using those browsers I could have not bothered and really saved some time in this instance and for the future. [/B][/QUOTE]
[i]Originally posted by PeOfEo [/i]Yes but you don't expect the pages to look the same on all of them, just to deliver all their content and navigation.
[B]code for all mediums. Code for all of the popular graphical browsers, but make your stuff compaible for everything else.
I preview my sites on the following:
IE6
IE5.5
IE5
MOZILLA
OPERA
NS4
LYNX
KONQUEROR [/B][/QUOTE]
[i]Originally posted by ray326 [/i]I try to get the content to look relatively good in all of them. I am willing to go out of my way for it to look good in all of those versions of ie and mozilla (because the gecko platform is what mozilla, netscape, and some isp browsers are using, and it is what I use ?). I will let some images be slightly off In browsers like konqueror, ns4 etc. But yes, the main idea is that the site is navicable and the content is accessible. My constant tweaking to make it look pretty on other platofmrs is my perfectionism. I am a procrastinater and a perfectionist!
[B]Yes but you don't expect the pages to look the same on all of them, just to deliver all their content and navigation. [/B][/QUOTE]
[i]Originally posted by PeOfEo [/i]So isn't everyone.
[B]I am a procrastinater and a perfectionist! [/B][/QUOTE]
[i]Originally posted by PeOfEo [/i]Well, I think it's the avatar that's really giving you that appearance. ? (Kidding, not asking for another political ANYTHING). I know what you mean- you want to make it perfect, even if you have to lead older browsers by the hand (because not doing so would seem so lazy) but you don't want to do it just this second- but you don't want to do it later, either. Right?
[B]I just seem to be so bad though ? [/B][/QUOTE]
[i]Originally posted by Ben R. [/i]Yes.
[B]It'd probably be preferable to change screen resolution, so that you get the "stretch effect", if you know what I mean. [/B][/QUOTE]
I purposefully have my maxed browser window to be an unusual size as a persistent reminder that pages should easily fit standard screens and stuff like mine. As you can see here I slap my task bar to the right of the screen rather than along the bottom.[/QUOTE]
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