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Nov 30.2002

Ive been working on a page for a guild im in at neopets.
Im using css and html
People have been telling me that they cant see the right side of the page and that its probably related to the fact that i usually use the a higher resolution but I dont know how to make it fit for the normal 800×600. Thats one problem
The other major problem is that I have a table within the css coding and for some reason it appears fine to me but noone else can see whats written within that table unless they highlight the whole page!

heres the addy ifn yerd be so kind as to maybe take a look and offer any ideas?

[url]http://www.geocities.com/aaa_pcd/tally.html[/url]

Id really really appreciate any help yer can offer cos ive been working on these problems for weeks ?
Thanks so much

Stormy

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@Zach_ElfersNov 30.2002 — I went there and I can't understand what's wrong with it. I had to scroll over about an inch to see what was on the right side (I have 800x600 resolution). Everything seemed like it worked fine. I am using IE 5.5.
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@StefanNov 30.2002 — Um, parts of your page is pretty broken.


For starters you have placed your CSS in the compleatly wrong place.

Now you have

<style></style>

Doctype

<html>

<head>

</head>

<body>

it should be

Doctype

<html>

<head>

<style></style>

</head>

<body>

Also, you might want to check your page at http://validator.w3.org and fix all the errors that show up.
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@stormcloudsauthorDec 01.2002 — To be honest Im totally lost ?

I tried the validater but it wont work on that page ?

I have never used one and i really dont know ifn i have done it right!

I tried to change what yer suggested about putting the style within the head! I mean duh i should have know that - i did know that i just didnt even see it! ?

I hope yer like helping new people and newbies at this stuff???

Cos im lost and i am hoping yer will keep helping me so i can get it right!

But ifn yer not the type that has patience thats ok I can TRUELY understand getting to frustrated with someone like me!

Im gonna go change all the other pages and put the code the right way but then i gotta get back to that tally page and work out why the table wont show up right!

anyways

i hope yer will keep trying to help me!

later

stormy
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@telconstar99Dec 01.2002 — I think you will find people willing to help. However, if you like to help us help you, try and do the following:

1) Check your spelling. It helps. I'm sure now that I've mentioned spelling, you will find at least 12 typos in my message <grin>.

2) Be specific about the errors you're getting, especially with the W3C validator.

As far as your font goes, I'm going to take a guess here. You probably have some kind of class (or maybe it's not CSS but just a <font> tag) that already declares the font as black, and thus, that's why you cannot see it (or at least most browsers cannot). So, then you're telling the browser to render it as two different colors, so, depending on the browser, it just picks one. That could explain it. Remember, I'm only guessing.

If you wish to have the validator run, you must specify an encoding. I personally use the following (placed within the <head> tag):

<meta HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1">

Go ahead and add an encoding type to your site, or tell the validator which one to use. Then take a look at the errors <grin>. Now for the fun part, fixing them!

As far as the width goes, it is a good practice to design for an 800 x 600 resolution, so kudos their. Typically, to account for vertical scroll bars and such, I would use a width of 760. This should eliminate those nasty scrollbars. You probably need to make your site tabular (though Stefan may disagree and insist on the <div> tag, which is a viable option). Basically, you need some way to control the width of the page. Once you find that way (if you need help finding it, then please say so and I will try and help) just set the width to 760 and your problems should be over.
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@stormcloudsauthorDec 01.2002 — Well im pretty sure im even more confused! lol

I dont know where to change the width of the table as there are several spots i think it could go so im not sure!

I did try putting in that line yer said but it seemed to mess it all up ?

i do need help finding a way to control the width please ?

thanks

stormy
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@telconstar99Dec 01.2002 — Hmm, maybe to cut down on the confusion, we should tackle one problem at a time. What would you rather have help with first, your width problem or your validation problem?
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@stormcloudsauthorDec 01.2002 — i think start with width

i looked at some of the errors and i think there are way way way tooo many for me to fix ?

The most important think is that people can see the table and its contents!

then the width etc ?

but i think finding the line thats making it hard for everyone to see is gonna take so long so i think width would be quicker! lol and then i wont feel so bad ifn i actually fix a problem! rofl

thanks

stormy
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@telconstar99Dec 01.2002 — Ok, after a bit of druding through your source, here is what I found.

I had a tough time fixing what you wrote, so I re-wrote a little of it and copy and pasted the rest. Here is what I have done:

http://www.wblondon.com/telconstar99/Temp/source.html

You will notice that a lot of your information is missing. It's actually not missing, it's commented out. Once I uncomment that HUGE table, things start messing up. See if you can play around with it and fix it.

As far as fixing it goes, here is a pointer. At that <tr>, you have three <td>s (your left hand side, your main, and your right hand side). You might want to try setting each <td> to a widths that add up to 760.

That should at least get you started in the right direction as far as the width is concerned.

Once you get this up, we can look at the color problem within the table.

Note: While looking through your source, I noticed some strange things. You seem to be a bit forgetful as far as opening and closing tags go. I would watch that and make sure that I close all tags that I open.
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@stormcloudsauthorDec 01.2002 — i cant work it out ?

me brain is fried and i think im gonna go to bed and maybe try again tomorrow!

ifn yer know a better way taht i can make a table like that for the tallys then please feel free to teach me! ?

later

stormy
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