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Apr 30.2007

Hi,

I have been reading through some posting regarding getting google to crawl sites and I have done (at least I think I have) most of what is recommend (google tools, site map, robot.txt file meta tags, submitted URL to google …). When I look when the site was last crawled, it was back in Feb. when I was developing the site and there was just a basic ‘coming soon’ message. So, wondering what else I can do? Still has not been crawled? Any additional suggestions welcome … the link is:

[url]http://www.alexandrawest.com/[/url]

thank you!!!

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@LeeUApr 30.2007 — Submitting a site map will get it crawled quickly.
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@aswebdesignMay 01.2007 — Build some links by submitting your site to some directories
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@CharlesMay 02.2007 — http://www.forbes.com/home/technology/2007/04/29/sanar-google-skyfacet-tech-cx_ag_0430googhell.html

It sounds like that "coming soon" message got you exiled to Google's supplemental index. Submitting your site to some directories or any other attempt to game the system will only keep you there.

You current problem is that you have a flash site. Get a hold of Lynx and view your site in that good browser and you'll understand why Google still considers your page to be junk.

Getting out of the junk drawer, however, will only take time. I'm afraid that the damage has been done.
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@jmarshallauthorMay 02.2007 — Thanks for the response. Just to further educate myself, why would a coming soon page be an issue? Also, only the home page has flash ...not the whole site, wondering if that makes a difference? Anyway, I will read the attached to see what I can do.

Thanks again for the information!!
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@jmarshallauthorMay 02.2007 — Ok, so I just checked and the site was crawled (yeah). I had re-verified it using a google META tag from the Google tools, maybe that helped. What I did notice is I don't see the sub pages listed - as I mentioned, the home page has flash but the sub pages are all HTML and have plenty of good text. Am I missing something to make sure google includes those pages as well? Shouldn't it just follow the links? Or ... I think I may have just answered my own question, putting links directly in the HTML, like at the bottom should solve that right?

Thanks all!
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@CharlesMay 02.2007 — It's a bit more complicated than that and for what I read if you are in the supplemental index Google will report the page as being crawled when it hasn't been. That date represents when it would have been crawled if the page wasn't junk.

The long and short of it is that there are a lot of junk pages and people trying to get Google to list their junk pages. And Google doesn't have time to crawl all the pages on the internet. So if Google determines that your page is junk, that it has no value and contains no valuable content, then in the junk drawer it goes where it gets ignored. Perhaps once or twice a year it will be checked. Your "coming soon" page was junk and no doubt there are millions of those pages on the web that never get any further. It was junk and into the junk drawer your site went.

Your use of Flash is simply an accessibility issue. I don't use it and so your site is worthless to me and no doubt to others. And Google can't make sense of it either. This doesn't mean that you can't use Flash but that you need a page that works as well with it as without. Make certain that your page works in Linx!

And if that first page is some splash page that makes you proud, get rid of it. Everybody but you will hate it and many customers will go away before getting past it.
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@jmarshallauthorMay 02.2007 — Thanks, I appreciate it.
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@SeanIMMay 07.2007 — Best two pieces of advice I could offer is:

[B]1) Create some great content[/B]

[B]2) Put it in front of The G Train [/B]

(Meaning: Get a link from a high PR site. The higher the better, but in general anything 4+ is good, lower will do but will take longer to get noticed. Also, the better the content the easier this part will be.)
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@jmarshallauthorMay 08.2007 — Thanks for the feedback ... question, do Sitemaps really help? sitemap.xml in the root directory? I have created them, as well as the robots file and uploaded them through google tools. My robots.txt file is only:

# Robots.txt file for http://www.alexandrawest.com



User-agent: *

Sitemap: http://www.alexandrawest.com/sitemap.xml

I am also working on the back links ...
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@CharlesMay 08.2007 — Forget about sitemaps and robots.txt for now. Get a hold of Lynx and just try to use your site. You'll note that it's complete junk and Google will and should keep it in the junk drawer.

This is an [i]accessibility[/i] issue but an inaccessible site is inaccessible to search engines.
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