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Mar 05.2006

We’ve just written a website which we are looking to market. We’ve purchased a few backlinks and added some backlinks ourselves with other websites, trying to make it content relevant where possible.

Google’s updated the cache of all the websites, yet our PR is still 0 and Google hasn’t recognised that there are any sites linking to us.

I realise there can be a delay, but if a page has recently been cached does that not then update the system?

If Google flat out refuses to acknowledge one of my backlinks… is there anything I can do to make sure they spot it?

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@bathurst_guyMar 06.2006 — Google is a very complicated beast - and only the people that work there know exactly how it works.

From what I have read, it depends a lot on the content that each page provides, how many links are on the page, keywords and many other factors.

If your page rank is 0 then that is your page rank at the moment. If it were to say N/A then that means that Google hasn't indexed it and placed it yet - So your just going to have to keep your content up to date, and provide valuable content.

That's all the help I can really offer.
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@JayMMar 06.2006 — If your website is new, your PR will remain 0 for 6 months, even thought it might not be 0.
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@pcthugMar 06.2006 — Search for your site on Google with the following code: [B]inurl:yourdomain.com[/B] you will now see how many pages the googlebot has and when last visited.

If you don't like the results then you could http://www.google.com/addurl/?continue=/addurl

But as you said previously, you've bought yourself some backlinks, therefore Google should be able to find you by going through these other sites - Unless of course they're not indexed by Google, so try [B]link:yourdomain.com[/B]
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@cusimar9authorMar 06.2006 — If your website is new, your PR will remain 0 for 6 months, even thought it might not be 0.[/QUOTE]

You know that actually makes sense as the last 3 or 4 sites I've done have remained PR0 for ages then suddenly shot up to PR2...

I've also heard that you're limited to PR4 until your site is 1 or 2 years old... is that true?
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@johnevaMar 06.2006 — Google updates PR every 3 months and we have just had the last PR update a week or two ago.

The cached page is update all the time though depending on how often the Googlebot comes to your site. The sites doing well and update often get search more than poor sites that dont update much.

As for being limited to a PR3 or 4 till your site is a couple of years old this sounds like it could be true as Google do take the age of your site in account when ranking you.
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@SeoDocMar 07.2006 — This is called the "sandbox".... new sites not ranking even though they have done all the right things. Pagerank is really not important to ranking anymore; and has no relation to the "sandbox" either. Build your links at a slow, even pace... (Google doesn't like to see "sudden", giant increases) and wait for the site to age.
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@pcthugMar 08.2006 — The "sandbox" effect will generaly last <6 months, though some sites have reported 1 Year+ to be properly ranked.

PageRank is still a very important part to Google's ranking system, it's just that Google has also adapted other techniques to their ranking system, hence the need to build up high PR links.
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@SeoDocMar 08.2006 — I agree about the PageRank, but, because most people place way too much value on the little number behind the "PR" they don't consider the fact that there are 100's of factors going into that calculation. They buy links solely based on PR which I don't recommend because for most any keyword, the top ranked sites can range from PR2 to PR10....
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@JayMMar 08.2006 — 

As for being limited to a PR3 or 4 till your site is a couple of years old this sounds like it could be true as Google do take the age of your site in account when ranking you.[/QUOTE]

This is not true. Take a look at the [URL=www.v7ndotcomelursrebmem.com]following website[/URL], which has a Real PR of 6.

Cheers
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@SeoDocMar 08.2006 — How did you calculate the "real" PR?
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@JayMMar 08.2006 — How did you calculate the "real" PR?[/QUOTE]

Using this [URL=http://www.searchengineengine.com]tool[/URL].

Cheers
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@David_BMar 10.2006 — Generally, Google doesn't show all links to a site in any case, just the links it considers important. So even though Google might know links to your site exist, it doesn't necessarily list them on a link search. If you want to see all links to a page, do a link search on MSN or Altavista; they both seem to pick up new links overnight, and they list ALL links.

Also, the way Google is updating its algorithm all the time, focusing on SEO might be the wrong thing to do. People do SEO presumably because search engines send traffic to their sites; however, SEO is just one aspect of the main goal: getting traffic.

Regards,


David
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