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Mar 23.2005

I’m new to the programming side of Web Development but am really interested in it as a career choice. I am confused thus far about programming languages to choose from though?? The whole Visual vs. c# debates that are all over forums. How do I go about chosing which language to get a grasp of first ?? After that what classes should I be taking and are there any other languages that would help me out in addition to the 1st choice?? I need major help preferably from someone in the industry please. thank u!!

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@NogDogMar 24.2005 — I would not worry a whole lot about specific languages. More important is learning a couple different languages with some significant differences (for instance, Java and Perl) along with some courses in programming logic, data structures, databases and SQL, etc. Then you'll find that learning other languages when required becomes relatively easy - you just need to learn that language's specific syntax and peculiarities, not how to program in general.
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@kermitforneyauthorMar 24.2005 — hmm. Would I be better off going back to school or just taking a few training courses ? ? I was already thinking about going back to school but was unsure which of the two (University vs. Training/Certifications) would be better. I just want to make sure that I am GAINING as much knowledge as possible the 1st timae around. I am the kind of person that wants to know "EVERYTHING" from beginning to ending.
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@Stephen_PhilbinMar 24.2005 — Well I've managed to learn a hell of a lot whenever I want. I've only done open source though and I suspect that's why. I've only got into HTML, CSS, getting into XML, tinker with javascript if I have to or have time left over from getting what matters done, PHP and MySQL using the InnoDB engine (as opposed to the ISAM or MyISAM engines) so I can use proper relational database design and implementation. That way all the info I wan't is free and to hand as and when I want. The entire MySQL manual is on my PC and is available at the click of a bookmark in my browser. Similair deal with PHP. The full and constantly updated manual is online, so I just have a bookmark to that which I read regularly (whether I need help or not). Markup is also obviously the same deal, just swinging by the W3C.

As for proprietary technologies though I have no idea. I dunno if you have to pay for access to learning resources or customer support or something, if it's free and comes with the product or is something else entirely.

I haven't done any courses on how to use what I know and I wouldn't think I'd need to. Having said that though, everyone is different and some people would consider learning the way I have to be an absurdly bad idea.
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@MstrBobMar 24.2005 — [font=Georgia][COLOR=royalblue]There's a lot to be said about the internet. I know that I learned all of what I know about web development online, at free resources. I don't own even one book on web development (who needs it? The W3C makes publically available the specifications for numerous technologies). HTML, CSS, XML, and Javascript have a myriad of free resources available.



That's front end, of course. Backend, or server side can be a different story. There are many options when it comes to this, but it seems PHP and ASP.net are the most popular. These two technologies are rather high-level languages. Of course, there are corporate websites that for whatever reason, use a lower level language, like C++ or something similar, to create custom, and higher-performance applications. I'll say this, learning a programming language is a lot different from markup and CSS. Server-side languages are a lot more powerful then Javascript as well. Having a good grasp of programming principles and a firm, steady knowledge of OOP and it will be simpler.



It all comes down to how best you learn. Some people need to read books to learn. Some people need the classroom enviroment. Others, like myself, can teach themselves online. Its about how you learn best. Keep in mind to be careful of where you learn. I know that in terms of webdesign, many of those classes teach you outdated methods. Research.[/COLOR][/font]
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