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why is my frame carried back to my homepage ?

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Nov 09.2004

Bit new to html :-

Have:-

index.html
Page 2- this is the frameset only
Page 3- this is the content of the main diplay pane (+home page link)
Page 4- this will hold text, and show text from other pages

When I go on the site, home page works fine, page 2 comes on, and the frames, display pane, and text pane show up fine, but when I click the link to the home page (this is in the diplay pane), the home page appears in the display pane window

only if I use the back button in the browser can I go back to the home page without having the text pane still on the screen ?

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    how do I quit out of the frame to show home page full browser view ?

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    I know I’m missing something obvious, but I was so long getting the frames to work, I’ll never sort this one myself

    • —-any help would be very much appreciated
    —-in the mean time, I will prepare this part of the site for upload, it might make it easier for people to find the fault.

    Cheers – Paul

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    @Ben_RogersNov 09.2004 — A link will target the URL of it's own window. If it is in a frame, that frame is its window. So, you must target the top level window, by using the target attribute: <a href="http://www.example.com/" target="_top">Example</a>. (No, this is not the technical definition, but I think it gets the point across.)

    However, it is reccomended that you do not use frames. They are not friendly to those using anything other than visual browsers (so blind people, or those without fast connections cannot view your page), they greatly hurt your SE rankings as the bot cannot view the content, and they also hurt your design, as a serious design cannot work well with frames.
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    @carpetpaulauthorNov 09.2004 — I must work on getting the pages in question online, so that people could see what I need to achieve, then I could perhaps get some advice on improving the design

    Do you know of a way to keep a slim part of the page (which stay on screen even when the main window is scrolled) that I can use to display different text based on what I click on in the main part of the display ?

    I have an amount of pictures of products for which I want to display information, I want the rest of the pictures to stay visible even when the user cllicks for the info ? -do you know of a better way that I can display this 'always on screen' info section ?

    Thanks - Paul

    Can I have it come up in a new window, for which I can set the size, rather than having to link to a seperate page ?
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    @Ben_RogersNov 09.2004 — [i]Originally posted by carpetpaul [/i]

    [B]I must work on getting the pages in question online, so that people could see what I need to achieve, then I could perhaps get some advice on improving the design



    Do you know of a way to keep a slim part of the page (which stay on screen even when the main window is scrolled) that I can use to display different text based on what I click on in the main part of the display ?



    I have an amount of pictures of products for which I want to display information, I want the rest of the pictures to stay visible even when the user cllicks for the info ? -do you know of a better way that I can display this 'always on screen' info section ?



    Thanks - Paul



    Can I have it come up in a new window, for which I can set the size, rather than having to link to a seperate page ? [/B]    [/QUOTE]     Well, how much information is there? If there is only a small amount, then all the information could be on the page, but with DHTML, it would be hidden until a product is selected, in which case it would be positioned in its correct spot. This works well because for those without CSS, everything shows, for those without JS, the information shows (you'd have to just make it look somewhat spiffy for these people, but this shouldn't be a hard task, just position the info underneath the image), and screen-readers/ text browsers/ SE bots get all the data they need. However, if there is a large amount of information, then maybe a new, small window would be a good idea.
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    @carpetpaulauthorNov 09.2004 — Please have a look, the home page is at myweb.tiscali.co.uk/blackpoolsingles - please click on 'cane gallery' to view the page in question

    I need more or less this sort of layout, if there was another way to get the bottom info bar to 'stick' to the bottom of the page while the top pics could still scroll (and the info stay in view) that would be great.

    Another alternative would be to have a seperate small window open (about the size of the text box I'm using here), this would hold the details of the product and could be made (if poss) to go off again once the user started to scroll the main page. It would also need to be replaced by the next click on another product or the tiles would just pile up (I assume)

    I've no idea what I'm talking about re. this second method, just that it would make a good second best if it were feasable

    Something similar would be as good, any ideas ??

    Thanks - Paul
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    @ray326Nov 09.2004 — An alternative (and I'm not saying this is a lot better) would be to put the image array into a div with auto overflow and use an iframe for the description instead of a full up frameset.
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    @carpetpaulauthorNov 09.2004 — Don't 'most' browser support frames these days ?

    I'm still a little fuzzy on this but:-

    If I have a link for those who can't see the frames


    Then, if I've got the following:-

    1, page to define frameset only (no content)

    2, page to diplay one frames content

    3, page to display other frames content

    If pages 2 and 3 are normal html pages, surely they are picked up by the search engines just as well as they would be if deleted page 1 ?




    Thanks - Paul

    P.S - when I checked out some of the top performing sites for similar comanies to ours, they are all using techniques that are frowned upon in these forums, with tables for putting images in, frames all over, and big strings of &nbsp ---should I be too worried?
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