/    Sign up×
Community /Pin to ProfileBookmark

Few question on JSP.

Copy linkTweet thisAlerts:
Mar 06.2004

  • 1. Is java Code too Tempting.

  • 2. Is Simple Tasks such as header and footer includes is overly difficult with JSP.

  • 3. Is lousy looping over difficult.

  • 4. Can JSP syntax error causes odd and useless errors messages.

  • 5. Because JSP consumes extra memory and hard drive space, is it considered wasted space.

    • to post a comment
    HTML

    10 Comments(s) ↴

    Copy linkTweet thisAlerts:
    @PeOfEoMar 06.2004 — Wouln't this quesion be better suited for the general forum? JSP is powerful... but I find it to be a little on the slow side myself (of cource I find everything about java slow, that thats partly why I hate java... I have known java for a year now, and I have come to the conclusion that it sucks).

    edit: http://forums.webdeveloper.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29546

    continue the at the link above.
    Copy linkTweet thisAlerts:
    @Khalid_AliMar 06.2004 — Java does not suck(its only the opinion of those who use MS technologies).

    And MS technologies do most of the things for so called programmers,where as in Java like a real programming language a developer has to think and come up with a logic and write code.

    Java is slow only because you compare it with MS technologies on windows.

    For a program written in java has to load all the linked resources at run time where as for MS techs most of the resources are already loaded in the windows environment (hence it seems faster).

    Java is truly a cross platform programming language,it has revolutionise the web development industry with server side integration(J2EE framework)

    And best of all..its FREE,nothing about MS is free and if there is anything thats free it comes with a huge tradeoff(like MS Explorer the trade off is no standard complinace).

    phew..?

    as for oas your JSP related questions..post them at

    forums.java.sun.com
    Copy linkTweet thisAlerts:
    @buntineMar 06.2004 — sorry Peo, but i agree.

    I love java!

    And MS technologies do most of the things for so called programmers
    [/quote]

    Cant say i agree with that, though.. I find C programming quite alot easier than ASP.
    Copy linkTweet thisAlerts:
    @steelersfan88Mar 06.2004 — i luv seeing 2 moderators fight! j/k.

    I'm going to back both of you on this saying that java is a great, but slow language. No further comments are needed.

    And I luv the way we all listen to Peo and continue at the link of which there are no replies!
    Copy linkTweet thisAlerts:
    @Khalid_AliMar 06.2004 — [i]Originally posted by buntine [/i]

    [B]

    I find C programming quite alot easier than ASP. [/B]    [/QUOTE]
    Of course C could be easily considered the mother of all modern languages,and Thanks god its not MS technology(though they tried to rig the modern version of C - C++ and called it MS C++)
    Copy linkTweet thisAlerts:
    @buntineMar 06.2004 — lol, yer.. They still milked the money out of it..

    Visual C++

    c++.net

    Whether its a bad thing or not, i dont know.. I would have done the same thing if i was in charge.
    Copy linkTweet thisAlerts:
    @Khalid_AliMar 06.2004 — [i]Originally posted by buntine [/i]

    [B]lol, yer.. They still milked the money out of it..



    [/B]    [/QUOTE]
    you are actually right....thats all microsoft is all about "Milk Money of other peoples cows"


    ?
    Copy linkTweet thisAlerts:
    @PhillMcMar 06.2004 — [i]Originally posted by Khalid Ali [/i]

    [B]Java does not suck(its only the opinion of those who use MS technologies)...... [/B][/QUOTE]

    Agreed. I feel that a true coder/developer will assess the problem at hand and determine which technology would be best suited for the creation of a solution. I admit, I use MS Technologies. Take ASPX for example. It's powered by BASIC (another cow they milked) but it is an extremely powerful technology to use ?
    you are actually right....thats all microsoft is all about "Milk Money of other peoples cows" [/QUOTE]

    You're right about that. They've been "milking other peoples cows" since the founding of Microsoft. Where do you guys thing Windows came from? 'Course, Jobs should have gotten a copyright, lol.
    Copy linkTweet thisAlerts:
    @PeOfEoMar 06.2004 — [i]Originally posted by PhillMc [/i]

    [B]Agreed. I feel that a true coder/developer will assess the problem at hand and determine which technology would be best suited for the creation of a solution. I admit, I use MS Technologies. Take ASPX for example. It's powered by BASIC (another cow they milked) but it is an extremely powerful technology to use ?[/b][/quote]     asp.net its self is free lol...http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=262D25E3-F589-4842-8157-034D1E7CF3A3&displaylang=en

    It can also be coded in notepad so you do not have to buy vb.net

    Webmatrix (the program) is also free, which is better then notepad obviously. ASP.NET can also be done in c# c++.net, you are not limited to vb.net. I hate java not just because of speed but because of its syntax. A lot of it is annoying, compared to c++... it ends up being much more code to do the same things it seems like. Also java gets real naggy about data types, you cant stick anything in another datatype, you have to parse it as another datatype first... The only thing you can do is int to double and put numbers in a string. I know java myself so its not like It is not an educated opionion. Also c++ can go cross platform... contrary to popular believe. Wasn't c++ used to make many of the versions of linux (not the kernel maybe but the... whats the word... well like mandrake, suse, red hat, debian, etc)
    Copy linkTweet thisAlerts:
    @ray326Mar 06.2004 — I'll go ahead and directly answer your questions since I'm primarily a WebSphere developer. This does belong in a different forum, though.
    1. Is java Code too Tempting. [/QUOTE] If you mean is it too tempting to put lots of Java into the JSP? For some folks untrained in MVC, yes.
    2. Is Simple Tasks such as header and footer includes is overly difficult with JSP.[/QUOTE] No, but it can get more difficult if you want the included output to be context sensitive in a general way.
    3. Is lousy looping over difficult.[/QUOTE] Lousy anything is over difficult.
    4. Can JSP syntax error causes odd and useless errors messages.[/QUOTE] Syntax errors in any language can cause "odd" error messages but NO error message is "useless."
    5. Because JSP consumes extra memory and hard drive space, is it considered wasted space.[/QUOTE] The premis of your question is invalid. It doesn't consume "extra" memory or disk space, it consumes "required" memory and disk space.
    ×

    Success!

    Help @kareem01 spread the word by sharing this article on Twitter...

    Tweet This
    Sign in
    Forgot password?
    Sign in with TwitchSign in with GithubCreate Account
    about: ({
    version: 0.1.9 — BETA 6.17,
    whats_new: community page,
    up_next: more Davinci•003 tasks,
    coming_soon: events calendar,
    social: @webDeveloperHQ
    });

    legal: ({
    terms: of use,
    privacy: policy
    });
    changelog: (
    version: 0.1.9,
    notes: added community page

    version: 0.1.8,
    notes: added Davinci•003

    version: 0.1.7,
    notes: upvote answers to bounties

    version: 0.1.6,
    notes: article editor refresh
    )...
    recent_tips: (
    tipper: @nearjob,
    tipped: article
    amount: 1000 SATS,

    tipper: @meenaratha,
    tipped: article
    amount: 1000 SATS,

    tipper: @meenaratha,
    tipped: article
    amount: 1000 SATS,
    )...