HTML CODE HELP… Please?

@SweetDanger85Feb 03.2004

Hello, my name is CJ. I just got my website not too long ago, I have finally decided to get a domain. I have it all setup and can start working on it.

Although, I have some poetry and pictures and what not that is going on my website. Is there a real good html code, maybe another different code that locks pictures, text and what not on my site. From highlighting pictures, text and pushing on your keyboard ctrl+C which copies your work… I’m sure you guys know all the tricks in the book for copying work off of websites.

Though is there another way around it, stopping people from copying my work? Thanks, I would really appreciate it!

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@soccer362001Feb 03.2004 — #It is practically impossible cause you would have to use JavaScript and it is very easy to disable JavaScript.

@pierskFeb 03.2004 — #I agree, not much you can do using coding. Basically, your poetry can be copied by anyone. However, for the pictures, have you tried watermarking them?

@SweetDanger85authorFeb 03.2004 — #How could you "disable" javascript if it is on my website?

Is there anyway of using another code to lock down the javascript so no one can disable it?

@pierskFeb 03.2004 — #Because javascript is client-side and is diabled within the browser

@SweetDanger85authorFeb 03.2004 — #?

What do you mean by watermarking them? Please explain more, if you would thanks!

@soccer362001Feb 03.2004 — #If it is poetry you wrote and pictures you took you can copyright them.

@SweetDanger85authorFeb 03.2004 — #Yeah, this is poetry I wrote. Pictures of me, that I would not like being passed around online, I might sound crazy because of it but I just don't want that happening.

How much does it cost to get this stuff "copyrighted?"

@pierskFeb 03.2004 — #Just putting a copyright mark on them is legally binding.

When I say watermark, I mean open the pics up in an editor (like fireworks) and in one of the corners, put some text like "Copyright 2004 Your name"

@SweetDanger85authorFeb 03.2004 — #On forum boards, they can have this way of taking pictures and putting this option and stuff on avatars where the avatars can only be used here or on the forum boards. So if someone saved them, and were to put them on a site, the pictures they took would have this saying like, sorry can't use my picture. Or whatever, is there a way of doing that?

@SweetDanger85authorFeb 03.2004 — #[i]Originally posted by piersk [/i]

[B]Just putting a copyright mark on them is legally binding.

When I say watermark, I mean open the pics up in an editor (like fireworks) and in one of the corners, put some text like "Copyright 2004 Your name" [/B][/QUOTE]

Never thought about that, AHAHAHAH! Thanks!! ?

Now about my poetry, what do I do for that? Or what should I do for that?

@pierskFeb 03.2004 — #If you're going to be displaying the text on your site, then there's not much you can do. You could put some javascript in to disable right-clicking, but this could be got around by viewing the source via the menus at the top of the page. Also (as it has been suggested before) it is possible to disable javascript, so that would be useless.

@spufiFeb 03.2004 — #If I want something on your site, then I can take it without even worrying about JavaScript because I could just do a screen print, or do File --> Save Page As... Honestly, if you have issues with people stealing something of yours, then don't put it on the net. End of story.

If you use pics, watermark them. If you use text, date when it was posted. Use a copyright on your site and then create a terms of agreement page telling people that if they wish to use something of yours, then they could do a number of things. One, they should contact you about it. Two, they should cite where they got the info and provide a link back to your site. If they don't do this, then they have broken the agreement and you have every right to go after them.

@pierskFeb 03.2004 — #One thing you could do is backup your site and burn all the files onto CD. Then post the CD to yourself but don't open the package.

Then, if the time comes when you have to sort out copyright theft, you can take the CD as evidence, since the date that the postal service stamp on it is legally binding.

A friend of mine did that and he got a bit of money.

Please bear in mind that that was in the UK, so the laws might be different elsewhere.

@SweetDanger85authorFeb 03.2004 — #?

This kinda bites in a way. A lot of work, but if I really want to put this stuff on display, I should take consideration of all that work.

I just thought I'd ask because you guys might know a lot about html code, javascript codes, xhtml codes, and yata yata. But I can see why it wouldn't work. I mean there are so many other things people could do to get around it.

Only one thing, how would I go about doing a "terms of agreement?" I mean, how would I know someone agreed, and who didn't agree. Sorry, I'm a bit knew for html codes, javascripts, and yata yata.

I know basic Html and some javascript codes. Though, how would you go about doing the setup?

Hope to hear from you soon. THANKS!

@pierskFeb 03.2004 — #Terms of agreement: "By looking at this site, you agree not to use any of the contents without my prior consent"

or something along those lines. Please note that I am not a lawyer and therefore have no idea if the above is legally binding. I take no responsibility if its not.

@SweetDanger85authorFeb 03.2004 — #?

Thanks, it actually works for me.

@pierskFeb 03.2004 — #I just wanted to put that so that no one could copy it an then say that I shouldn't have put it if it wasn't legal blah blah and then sue my arse.

@SweetDanger85authorFeb 04.2004 — #?

I can understand that. AHAH!

I'm having trouble getting ideas on what to put on my site though. lol I hate it when I get the idea-block.

Has anyone had that before?

@pierskFeb 04.2004 — #All the time!! I guess its the same with any creative thing, whether writing, drawing or designing.

@chris9902Feb 04.2004 — #you can use flash and take the text highlight option off.

so people would have to re-write all your work. also if you had flash you can not right click on it so they would have to do a screen print or get a .swf decompiler

@spufiFeb 04.2004 — #Using Flash to protect images and text? Do you kill ants with a grenade? ?

@pierskFeb 04.2004 — #Yes, don't you?:eek:

@chris9902Feb 04.2004 — #?

@pierskFeb 04.2004 — #I think that he is suggesting that protecting the text etc with Flash is a little extreme

@SweetDanger85authorFeb 05.2004 — #:o

Well, I am not familiar with Flash. I only know HTML codes and some Javascript codes.

So where can I learn for free Flash stuff?

@SweetDanger85authorFeb 05.2004 — #?

Does anyone know? AHAH

@spufiFeb 05.2004 — #Learning Flash for free is the easy part. Getting Flash for free is the difficult part. ? The cheapest way is to be a student and get a student version. I assume they have those, but you know what they say about assuming...

@PeOfEoFeb 05.2004 — #using flash to protect images :eek: now I have heard everything. Print screen, don't fail me now!

@Paul_JrFeb 05.2004 — #[i]Originally posted by spufi [/i]

[B]Do you kill ants with a grenade? ? [/B][/QUOTE]
Nah, only 'cause I don't have anywhere to get 'em. ? (Grenades, that is)

@rocky1Feb 05.2004 — #In search of answers to blocking the right click and copy scenario ran across [URL=http://www.webproworld.com/viewtopic.php?t=1994]this topic elsewhere[/URL] recently and thought you might find this info helpful ~

As far as java being the answer, you can find script to block the average at The JavaScript Source. Right next to that you can also find the script to crack the script that blocks entry and open the source code! Once the code is open you have access to the raw text, and access is gained to the file names for your graphics. The files aren't protected by the Java Script, outside of the page, and each may be individually opened in the browser, where you can copy them.

Java will keep the average individual from copying it, but there are those that know where to find the toys to open it, and how to use them if there's content they want.

@BinarytechFeb 05.2004 — #I Agree. If it is incredibly important to 'protect' your content, then don't post in on your website. If you want to protect it from the average pc-savy person, you can use Flash, or even better yet, you can record your voice and use Flash to play it on your site. If you will do text, you can use Flash, but anyone can simply 'capture' what is seen on the screen. Anyhow, here is a good link to a Flash tutorial site:

http://www.webwasp.co.uk/tutorials/index.php

@pierskFeb 05.2004 — #[i]Originally posted by spufi [/i]

[B]Getting Flash for free is the difficult part. ? [/B][/QUOTE]

Oh, I dunno... I can think of several ways, only one of which is legal.

@chris9902Feb 05.2004 — #That is why there are so many **** flash sites. Because people "steal" flash and then don't take the time to learn it. But if you spend $699.00 on it I would make damn sure I got my moneys worth.

@pierskFeb 05.2004 — #Actually, I know many people that have stolen flash and then taken the time to learn it. When I have finished my placement in the summer this is what I plan to do. (learn flash that is)

@chris9902Feb 05.2004 — #you but you and them all suck

@pierskFeb 05.2004 — #[i]Originally posted by chris9902 [/i]

[B]you but you and them all suck [/B][/QUOTE]

And do you have something to back that up?

@chris9902Feb 05.2004 — #nice post edit:rolleyes:

@pierskFeb 05.2004 — #I added that because I already have a copy of flash (from work) that I can use to learn. So you would be able to tell me apart from the other people who "suck"

@pyroFeb 05.2004 — #Insulting other forum members is not looked to highly on, on these forums...

@chris9902Feb 05.2004 — #i was not direct it is just at everyone who does not pay for software.

@Dathor_VerloxFeb 05.2004 — #Take my outlook on it, I have "obtained" a copy of Studio MX which is really useful and I advise anybody who wants a powerful set of web dev tools to buy.

My logic:

If I didn't get it for free, I wouldn't have paid so Macromedia are not losing anything.

Also I have told quite a few people about it and if anyone asks what my prefered web dev tool is I say Studio MX (then proceed to slag of frontpage which I hate with a vengance). This means that Macromedia are getting free advertising for their product (word of mouth). Thus they are actually more likely to gain money and profit from this.

Thanks

@SweetDanger85authorFeb 05.2004 — #:eek: :eek: :eek:

Is there anyway I could get uhm, who can send me the AHAH I know, this is a complete joke but is there anyone generous enough to send me the program? ?

Buddy ol' pals?? lol

@SweetDanger85authorFeb 05.2004 — #?

Also, I kinda don't understand this site... lol

" http://www.webwasp.co.uk/tutorials/index.php "

It was weird, and confusing... lol:p

@pyroFeb 05.2004 — #No! It sounds like a large number of you need to read the [URL=http://www.internet.com/corporate/privacy/aup.html]AUP[/URL], as it explicitly states that:
You will not use these forums to violate any laws nor to discuss illegal activities.[/QUOTE]

As far as Dathor Verlox's take on the matter, that's a good example of twisted thinking. "I'm stealing, but it's ok because..."

@SweetDanger85authorFeb 05.2004 — #?

I didn't mean the version of which you have to buy. I meant the "free" version. I guess I should have stated that, but sometimes I forget.

Sorry...

@pyroFeb 05.2004 — #You can download the demo from their site as well as anyone. :rolleyes:

@SweetDanger85authorFeb 05.2004 — #:rolleyes:

I don't know if I am going to use flash though. Because I see Flash can be a bit "confusing" as HTML can, but HTML is a bit easier.

?

If you know what I mean!

@spufiFeb 05.2004 — #Download a trial copy and see if you like it. If you don't then at least you know. And yes, it will be more complex than pure HTML. It's more like taking Photoshop and JavaScript and combining the two.

@AdamBrillFeb 05.2004 — #[i]Originally posted by Dathor Verlox [/i]

[B]My logic:

If I didn't get it for free, I wouldn't have paid so Macromedia are not losing anything.

Also I have told quite a few people about it and if anyone asks what my prefered web dev tool is I say Studio MX (then proceed to slag of frontpage which I hate with a vengance). This means that Macromedia are getting free advertising for their product (word of mouth). Thus they are actually more likely to gain money and profit from this.

Thanks [/B][/QUOTE]Reworded:

"If I wouldn't have stole it, I wouldn't have bought it, either.

If anyone asks, I tell them that I use Studio MX(then bash Frontpage). Macromedia really should thank me for stealing their product because of the word-of-mouth advertising. They are likely to make money from me stealing from them.

Thanks."

Sound good to everyone here???? :rolleyes:

@PeOfEoFeb 05.2004 — #but the people you are "advertising" too are likely to just start up kazaa and download it themselfs. If you did in fact pirate software (not claiming that I never did, but I am not telling you what either am I?), do not tell people about it. It is just a good way to get in trouble. Macromedia does quite a bit of advertising, I do not think they need you to help them, and I do not think they have seen any revenue due to your "word of mouth" campaign.

@SweetDanger85authorFeb 06.2004 — #Ok, I am having a problem with this HTML code.

You know the bar, at the very top of your internet page. Where it like tells like a detail of what the page is? Know what I'm talking about? For me, it says Web Developer Forum - Reply to Topic - Microsoft Internet Explorer

Anyways, for my site. I was trying to put a title in there. It wouldn't change by stay index - Internet Explorer. What was I doing wrong? This is what I typed.

I am not goign to put he brackets, so it doesn't turn the code I am trying to show you.

html

head

/head

title blah blah

/title

body

/body

/html

Please get back to me about this, thanks!

@Paul_JrFeb 06.2004 — #[i]Originally posted by spufi [/i]

[B] It's more like taking Photoshop and JavaScript and combining the two. [/B][/QUOTE]
Aha! I would say more like combining LightWave with JS in German (Or just pick a language you don't know), lol. For me, at least. *Cowers*

@rocky1Feb 06.2004 — #[i]Originally posted by SweetDanger85 [/i]

[B]Ok, I am having a problem with this HTML code.

You know the bar, at the very top of your internet page. Where it like tells like a detail of what the page is? Know what I'm talking about? For me, it says Web Developer Forum - Reply to Topic - Microsoft Internet Explorer

Anyways, for my site. I was trying to put a title in there. It wouldn't change by stay index - Internet Explorer. What was I doing wrong? This is what I typed.

I am not goign to put he brackets, so it doesn't turn the code I am trying to show you.

html

head

/head

title blah blah

/title

body

/body

/html

Please get back to me about this, thanks! [/B][/QUOTE]

Title Tag should be within the header dude.

html

<head>

<title> blah blah</title>

</head>

body

/body

/html

@SweetDanger85authorFeb 06.2004 — #?

You made my day, thank you so so so so so so so so and so so so so so so so so and so so so so so much!

Ahah, there's a lot of so's in there. lol!? ? ?

@SweetDanger85authorFeb 06.2004 — #Ok, I am so like getting mad here... This is what I've got for what I'm trying to do.

html>

head>

title>Hey, welcome to my site. Please make yourself a home, and don't forget to sign the guestbook!

/title>

/head>

body>

/body>

/html

I also rewrote it, and took all the symbols or whatever out. This is now what I've got, and it still won't work!

html>

head>

title>Hey welcome to my site Make yourself a home and dont forget to sign the guestbook Thanks /title>

/head>

body>

/body>

/html>

Still not working, why?? WHY??? WHA!

@spufiFeb 06.2004 — #<html>

<head>

<title>Hey, welcome to my site. Please make yourself a home, and don't forget to sign the guestbook!

</title>

</head>

<body>

</body>

</html>

I would actually suggest putting your actual site name in the <title> tag and placing what you have in the <title> tag somewhere on your page. If you want somebody to read it, they will more likely read it if it's on your page and not in your <title> tag.

@SweetDanger85authorFeb 06.2004 — #:mad:

I just still don't understand why it won't work. You know what I mean? ?

@spufiFeb 06.2004 — #If you just want to display index - Internet Explorer, then just put the word index in your <title> tag. Mind you using the word index doesn't do much good for search engines.

@Blood_Sucker_Feb 06.2004 — #Try using the "No Frames" script <no frames></no frames>

But only use this if your site isn't a free one, as using this in a free site will usually result in deletion of your site, as it can remove popups.

@SweetDanger85authorFeb 06.2004 — #Ok, I was told in order to use my website url I have to use index word to save it under. Or it will not go under www.shortsweetdanger.com , it kept saying that it was under construction when things were on the page.

Now that I saved it under index in my file, it will go to url www.shortsweetdanger.com and show the stuff on my website.

So I had to save it under index, or it wouldn't go it. If I saved it as "home" in my file folder, I would have had to put www.shortsweetdanger.com/home and I didn't want it that way. You know what I mean?

So someone told me to save it as "index" in my file folder, and it ended up going to www.shortsweetdanger.com . It may sound confusing to you, but yeah. So now I wanted to change the index to something else, exciting. Like Welcome, or something.

Or maybe even doing it down in the part where it shows you the page is loading.... How would I go about doing that with HTML codes?

Sorry, I must be a pain in the ass. LOL

@PeOfEoFeb 06.2004 — #Index.html happens to be the default file on your server, or on your directory atleast. Hunt around in the control pannel (if there is one) for defalt files, and if you find it change it to home.html. If you cant do that, that means the default is index server wide and you are out of luck. Enter pages, and page loading pages are not good. Enter pages are not good for search engine ratings (doesnt see your content), and loading pages are going to fail to redirect a user or even work with a user that does not have java script (13% of the internet). So if you cant change the file my advice would be to make due with index.html

@rocky1Feb 07.2004 — #[i]Originally posted by SweetDanger85 [/i]

[B]Ok, I was told in order to use my website url I have to use index word to save it under. Or it will not go under www.shortsweetdanger.com , it kept saying that it was under construction when things were on the page.

Now that I saved it under index in my file, it will go to url www.shortsweetdanger.com and show the stuff on my website.

So I had to save it under index, or it wouldn't go it. If I saved it as "home" in my file folder, I would have had to put www.shortsweetdanger.com/home and I didn't want it that way. You know what I mean?

So someone told me to save it as "index" in my file folder, and it ended up going to www.shortsweetdanger.com . It may sound confusing to you, but yeah. So now I wanted to change the index to something else, exciting. Like Welcome, or something.

Or maybe even doing it down in the part where it shows you the page is loading.... How would I go about doing that with HTML codes?

Sorry, I must be a pain in the ass. LOL [/B][/QUOTE]

Inquiring minds want to know, and obviously you've not encountered the issue before or you wouldn't have all these questions. These are therefore logical questions or we wouldn't be taking the time to explain them either, so no, you're not a pain in the ass.

As for the file name versus title issue, the two are separate issues. Yes if you want the page to appear as your homepage and light up one's monitor, when they enter your Domain Name then it has to be saved as the "index.html" file, and that's what's going to show up in the Address Bar after your URL.

The page "Title" does not have to be "index" however, that may differ, and you may call the page what ever you like in the html tags.

In example the index page on my site is www.rtfi.us/index.htm, file there being "index.htm". However... the page title is <title>RTFI - Fishing & Fun - Rocky Thomas Fishing Industries - ND Fishing</title>. Cause and reason being, the the title is optimized for Search Engine find, and loaded very heavily with my keywords. This title shows, but not where you suggest you want it too.... it shows on Search Engine finds.

If you go to Google and do a search for any of the Keyword phrases within that title, you'll find that exact title, in the top 6 at Google. At worst case, #6 - "Fishing & Fun", competing against 3.76 million other finds on Google. So yes it does have a place in life, but not where you expect it.

The page title you suggest above is - 1.) too long, it needs to be shorter and more descriptive, your title should be limited to 12 words maximum, and 2.) it's not going to benefit you in search engine optimization, in any respect. Again, your title needs to be keyword heavy, but bear in mind this is what the engines are going to show when they find and list your site, so it should make a brief descriptive statement about your site.

If you want to post the message you suggest as a title on the site, I'd go find a java script, and run it bottom of the page in the status bar instead of in the title, see ~~>http://javascript.internet.com/scrolls/double-status-bar-message.html

@SweetDanger85authorFeb 07.2004 — #?

I figured it out, yay! Ok! YAY! lol!

Anyways, what website company I'm using is, goecities. Though I paid for a domain, d'oh... lol! Well anyways I've use this place like FOREVER in a day. lol! Anyways, I asked a friend that had like Bobby's Page up there, and he said, just go up to Frames I believe it was, I can't remember exactly what it was, and then go to Page Properties, and type whatever I wanted in the Title box. D'oh, I can just be so air headed at times.

Check it out, let me know what you think. lol!

www.shortsweetdanger.com

I'm still not done witht he whole site yet, but I'm working on it. It takes time!

Thanks everyone, for your help! Now at least I know what to do, if I ever wanted to do it a different way. THANK YOU!!

@SweetDanger85authorFeb 08.2004 — #?

Ok, I have like links and stuff on my website for like people to email me. On some of them, I'd like to put a "subject" in there myself. Like have it there AUTOMATICALLY there, but how would I go about doing this?

I use goeicities.com for website, but have my own domain. The reason why I'm asking, is so I have a "subject" of knowing why they are emailing me, or what they are emailing me about. Know what I mean?

Anyways, I hope I can get the help... THANKS!!

@Paul_JrFeb 08.2004 — #If you are refering to [FONT=courier new]mailto:[/FONT], then something like this?

<i>
 </i>&lt;a href="mailto:[email protected][color=red]?subject=Stinky cheese![/color][color=blue]&amp;body=Let us discuss stinky cheese...[/color]"&gt;E-mail me about stinky cheese!&lt;/a&gt;

@SweetDanger85authorFeb 08.2004 — #?

Thanks! It worked, but I didn't use all of the code. Just some, which was all I wanted. THANKS!!

@Paul_JrFeb 08.2004 — #You're welcome. ?

@SweetDanger85authorFeb 09.2004 — #?

I'm like almost done with my site. Although, probably never really ever be done with the site, unless like updating perhaps isn't done for the site. AHAH

But yeah, I've done some more pages, and stuff.

I didn't know there was a 'print block' code, or a 'highlight block' code, so I put those on my pages.

Although I never did find a 'print screen block' code yet, anyone know of a code for that?

@AdamBrillFeb 09.2004 — #There isn't any code to block someone from using print screen. I'd be curious to see how you think you blocked printing, too... Maybe you could provide a link?

@PhillMcFeb 09.2004 — #[i]Originally posted by piersk [/i]

[B]One thing you could do is backup your site and burn all the files onto CD. Then post the CD to yourself but don't open the package.

Then, if the time comes when you have to sort out copyright theft, you can take the CD as evidence, since the date that the postal service stamp on it is legally binding.

A friend of mine did that and he got a bit of money.

Please bear in mind that that was in the UK, so the laws might be different elsewhere. [/B][/QUOTE]
The best way to do this (I do this with all of my code) is to print off all of the source, and maybe a screen shot. Take an envelope, and the hardcopies, to a notary public. Place the hardcopies in the envelope, the notary will seal and stamp it. This way, their is no disputing that the code/content is indeed yours. This is also known as the "Poor Man's Patent", lol.

Someone once stole some code for a Point of Sale application I was writing. Since I was writing v2.0, I had already notarised v1.0. I was able to prove that the code was mine b/c the seal on the envelope hadn't been broken, and the date notarised was well before he tried this.?

@PhillMcFeb 09.2004 — #[i]Originally posted by SweetDanger85 [/i]

[B]:D

I'm like almost done with my site. Although, probably never really ever be done with the site, unless like updating perhaps isn't done for the site. AHAH

But yeah, I've done some more pages, and stuff.

I didn't know there was a 'print block' code, or a 'highlight block' code, so I put those on my pages.

Although I never did find a 'print screen block' code yet, anyone know of a code for that? [/B][/QUOTE]

If there is code for this, it would have to be done client side. This would be useless b/c client side can be disabled.

@PeOfEoFeb 10.2004 — #[i]Originally posted by PhillMc [/i]

[B]If there is code for this, it would have to be done client side. This would be useless b/c client side can be disabled. [/B][/QUOTE] which means you can just skip a step and not bother printing the screen. I mean half the time I keep java script turned off, so no right click scripts really do not affect me. I tend to enjoy not having java script on because it cuts down on crap like that, and scrolling ads on my screen that are not really popups so the fb blocker cant catch them.