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Despite after staring so long at the script, I can’t seemed to find where the problem lies. I just don’t want that space between the UPPER table(where the logo is) and the LOWER table where the contents are. Weird..pls. help..

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@Paul_JrDec 18.2003 — For one, you've got four <body> tags in there. I would also suggest moving some of those scripts to external .js files, and [i]re[/i]moving some of the scripts as well.
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@spufiDec 18.2003 — Ok, it's past 2am here and I haven't written the two e-mails that I wanted too, so I'll skip giving your code the swift butt kicking it deserves because seriously, that's some major overcoding going on there. Here's a quick run through.

  • 1. Put the JavaScript crack pipe down. The only thing that I really see from the user's standpoint is the status bar thing and personally, if it's important enough to put in the status bar, then why isn't it in with the rest of the web page?


  • 2. Tables should not be used for layout. Tabular data? Yes. Layout no.


  • 3. Learn CSS. This is what you use for layout.


  • 4. Learn to validate you page.


  • 5. On the bright side of things, your site is helping me with my write up on common beginning web design errors because you reminded me of some I missed. ?


  • Let me get some sleep and then we can kick your code to the curb.
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    @oceanmaidauthorDec 18.2003 — I need solutions..not suggestions to solve my current problem. Can anyone provide something like "Ok, you don't need that code that" or "You'll need this code there" or rearrange your javascript as such..etc..etc..". My brain's cracking..Pls. help..
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    @FangDec 18.2003 — It's the 3D Spin Menu that is causing the space.

    Move the script after the 22 <BR>'s and change eye.y = 450;

    Take heed of [B]spufi's[/B] comments! If you cut and paste others peoples scripts you will run into problems. Learn the basics first.
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    @spufiDec 18.2003 — Like I said, it was past 2am when I saw your post so I wasn't into looking through the mess of code you had to figure it out. I tried to look at your site today and I can't seem to connect to it. When I can, I'll go through and show you exactly what needs to be done.
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    @oceanmaidauthorDec 19.2003 — Thank you..looking forward to your help.. ?
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    @soccer362001Dec 19.2003 — Just so you know 13% of Internet users dont have JavaScript enabled.
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    @Paul_JrDec 19.2003 — [i]Originally posted by soccer362001 [/i]

    [B]Just so you know 13% of Internet users dont have JavaScript enabled. [/B][/QUOTE]


    Yeah, so it'd be a good idea to have an alternate form of navigation for those of us who cannot, or choose not to, have JS enabled.
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    @soccer362001Dec 19.2003 — [i]Originally posted by Paul Jr [/i]

    [B]Yeah, so it'd be a good idea to have an alternate form of navigation for those of us who cannot, or choose not to, have JS enabled. [/B][/QUOTE]

    My thought exactly.
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    @spufiDec 20.2003 — I just wanted to say that I worked on it some tonight, but I was wondering if you could zip your images and post them here so I can see what the site is supposed to look like with them since I don't see them on your site. I'm working on doing a non-JS version of the site and then I might add the thing for the date, but I went from 430+ lines of code, or 16.5KB, to so far using 69 lines of code, or 4.24KB. Granted most of that was junking JavaScript.
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    @oceanmaidauthorDec 22.2003 — In terms of images, you can jusy "right-click"and save them, right?
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    @spufiDec 22.2003 — It doesn't matter if I right click on them, or not since they are missing. ?
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    @oceanmaidauthorDec 22.2003 — I don't know what I can do but link below is an updated one, Spuffi.

    http://www.marquis-services.com.sg/

    p/s: Thnx. a lot for your help till this far.
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    @spufiDec 23.2003 — Ok, I went and got your images from that link. Your background image for your page isn't showing up for me in Mozilla 1.5, but I have it working in my test version. It's not the best image to have repeated vertically and horizontally, but it's also kind of small to use just once. I think I'll leave it repeating as is and just use plain backgrounds for the sections of the site.
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