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Whats the difference between DNS and domain registration

I recently renewed a DNS subscription for a website for work but have now recieved an invoice from a different company to renew my domain name for the same website.

What exactly is DNS before i go back to the MD no nenew the domain name.

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@tracknutSep 19.2008 — DNS = Domain Name System - this is technology that accomplishes mapping domain names (xyzzy.com) to IP addresses (80.23.56.100). It is implemented via Nameservers distributed around the internet, and isn't something you "buy" specifically. Here are the gory details - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_Name_System

There are companies that watch for domain name expirations, and send bills out in an attempt to get you to pay the renewal and transfer your domain registration to them. It's a scam - toss these in the trash. When you register your domain name with company X, they are responsible for mapping your doman to specific DNS Nameservers, that's part of what you're paying for. Stick with them, unless for some reason you're not happy with their customer service, price, etc.

Hope that helps,

Dave
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@Marcus_MaximusauthorSep 19.2008 — Is it possible to have your domain name registered with one company and have a DNS subscription with another for some reason i think the person who was there previously has done that
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@tracknutSep 19.2008 — Frankly, I don't know the answer to that one. What do you mean by "DNS Subscription"? I've never paid for, or been given something called a DNS Subscription.

Dave
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@Marcus_MaximusauthorSep 22.2008 — Sorry if im causing confusion trying to explain this.

i got an email to renew DNS services for our web address. From the services window i can see that we have the A-record forwarded to our Servers IP. i think this sends anbody looking for our site to the IP of our web server which is what i understand DNS to be. if im wrong leave me know.

I then got an email from a different company to renew the domain name which i thought i did when i renewed the DNS with the other company.

I recently discovered that it is possible to have our domain name purchased from one company and our DNS services from another. Would i be right ,and if anybody knows a good reason to do this please leave me know.

i assumed these went hand in hand
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@bathurst_guySep 22.2008 — They go hand in hand, and I have never paid for DNS, I do however have them with different companies (that is DNS and the Domain Name).

Personally I think your were scammed on the first email, and the second one is legit.

To recap, DNS is free, domain registration and renewal is not.
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@felgallSep 22.2008 — There are thousands of DNS around the world and all need to be able to do something with a request to display any domain - even of that something is to just pass the request along to another DNS until it eventually reaches one that knows where to find the domain. The DNS belonging to the registrar you register your domain with will be the authoritative one which tells all the others where to go to get to your hosting.

All of those services are provided free. The only part you need to pay for is the domain registration itself and for any services that the registrar provides for maintaining your domain details (which are often included in the price of the domain rather than being an extra charge).

The other part of setting up a web site that you do have to pay for and which can be from a separate provider is the web hosting itself that contains the actual contelt of your site. In some instances you can get the domainn and the hosting from the same provider but these are often separate. The hosting provider usually provides details of the nameservers that you need to set up your domain to use in order for the domain to connect to the hosting.
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@Marcus_MaximusauthorSep 23.2008 — I've attached a screen shot, taking out any personal information, of what i paid for hopfully im not getting scammed. Any help appreciated

[upl-file uuid=21bd1b0f-c70c-4e58-923c-14c5c2e3628b size=44kB]Paid.JPG[/upl-file]
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@tobiaseichnerSep 23.2008 — Hard to say something with this screenshot...

I would recommend to contact your webhoster / domain name registrar and ask whether or not they sent the invoice in question.

If you have already paid for this service by credit card and it turns out that it was a scam, simply initiate a chargeback.

By the way, webhosting providers may indeed charge for using their DNS servers, e.g. if you just have a redirection to an outside server or use their DNS as a backup service.
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@Marcus_MaximusauthorSep 24.2008 — We are hosting on our in house server. We have the domain name bought from one legitimate company and a custom DNS with another legitimate company (The screen shot)

Is it possible to buy a domain name without DNS and vice versa.
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@tobiaseichnerSep 24.2008 — Is it possible to buy a domain name without DNS and vice versa.[/QUOTE]
You cannot register a domain name without having it set up on a DNS server for most top-level domains (to prevent bulk registrations). So for example, the German DE-NIC requires that each domain is available online in any way - and this pre-requisites running DNS services.

Well, theoretically you may buy DNS services separately from a domain, but only for already registered domain names. DNS makes no sense without a domain... (it's like buying car tyres without owning a car ;-)

I just can imagine setting up backup DNS servers for your business-critical domain or something like this.
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@ariellSep 30.2008 — You certainly can bulk-register domains, INSISTING to not having them set up at DNS...

This is PART of my monthly income.
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@HostColorOct 08.2008 — Hi,

People usually register their name servers with the same registrar where they get their domain. Registrars are just a front end of the Root zones. Theoretically you can have your DNS registered with another registrar than the one you used for domain registration. But in practice this is not allowed. And it should not be.
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@ariellOct 09.2008 — Why not? If that were not allowed, you'd have no way to "flank out" price changes. You pay for a domain, fine. Let everyone decide himself WHOM else he/she's paying HOW MUCH.

Best from the south.
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