Flash and table probs in php based joomla

@dentApr 02.2007

Hello

I started to use the php based content management system joomla for a new site some time ago and I must say its easy to use… But I have big problems with 2 things that I have been trying to clarify now for two months or so.
But not even the most experienced person I know could give me any solution.
So now I try here ?

1. When adding a flash in a content you are asked to specify the size, so far ok it works. But if you decide to go back and modify any of the content on that page thru the joomla content manager (not modules etc) you need to respecify the size again everytime. It has the size 0x0 pixels, and you net to set it again!
Very irritating on a page with 100 small flash movies in different sizes. You can hardly remember all the sizes and be troubled with re-entring size.

Solution would be soooo great!

2. Adding a table inside the content manager on a page on the site works, but the table isnt shown where you add it, but more up and to the right. This could be ok if it wsnt for that it also shows in different places depending on what browser you use :S

ok thats all for now.

big respect to the person that can help me shed some light on this matter.
The site Im using joomla on is ~~[url]~~www.dcforge.com[/url] if you would like to look at it.

Thx

dent

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@dentauthorApr 02.2007 — #sorry for typos here its 8 in the morning and I havnt slep yet :eek:

@dentauthorApr 02.2007 — #cant find the edit button so I do like this: here revised text again the same but better ?

Hello

I started to use the php based content management system joomla for a new site some short time ago and I must say its easy to use... But I have big problems with 2 things that I have been trying to clarify now for two months or so.

But not even the most experienced person I know could give me any solution.

So now I try here

1. When adding a flash in a content you are asked to specify the size, so far all ok. It works fine first time. But if you decide to go back and modify any of the content on that page thru the joomla content manager (not modules etc) you need to respecify the size of all flash objects again everytime. It has the size 0x0 pixels for some reason, and you need to set it again!

Very irritating on a page with lets say 100 small flash movies in different sizes. You can hardly remember all the sizes and be troubled with re-entring size.

Solution would be soooo great!

2. Adding a table inside the content manager on a page on the site works, but the table isnt shown where you add it, but more up and to the left. This could be ok if it wasnt for that it also shows in different places depending on what browser you use :S So you can basicly not use that feature if you are expecting visitors with different browsers. Very irritation as it would have been a great thing to be able to use.

ok thats all for now.

big respect to the person that can help me shed some light on these matters.

It seams to be a general problem in latest joomla but still I havnt found any info on their sites/forums

Thx

dent

@launchpad67aApr 02.2007 — #I use Joomla everyday and here's your solution.

1) Don't use the Insert Flash function on the wysiwyg editor...ever!

2) Turn Off the wysiwyg editor in the site config panel

3) Open the page in question to edit

4) Hard code your entire flash section into a Table within the page. Your flash code should include sizes for every movie you are using.

5) Hard code the rest of the page to include all other content you want.

6) Save the page and preview it.

If it looks the way you want then keep it, if not edit some more.

Now, the key to avoiding the flash issue your having with Joomla is to not try and edit the page if you have the wysiwyg editor turned on! Always turn it off before you edit a page that contains flash in it. And Always hard code your flash into each of your pages.

So with that said, if your happy with the way your page looks, you can turn the editor back on.

If you have any other questions, just ask.

**Oh, you mentioned 100's of small flash movies all on the same page. Are they all grouped together on the page? Or are they all over the place? I was wondering why you don't just put them all in 1 movie? Then you only have 1 code to put on a page.

@dentauthorApr 02.2007 — #Thank you mike for that excellent answer on my flash problem.

The "100 small etc" was really just a fictional example, but you are right.

Have you any idea on how to resolve the problem with tables appearing in different places on different browsers? Also hard coding?

Thank you ?

@launchpad67aApr 05.2007 — #Sorry for the late reply, I have been out of town.

You're probably using one of the included templates that come with Joomla, or some free one you found on the web, right? Well unfortunately they are not designed very browser compliant. Meaning, they might look good on all browsers but might not.

My suggestion is to try some different templates (there are tons of free ones available), and keep checking them in different browsers. Or, you can always spend the time to recode a templete you really like and try and make it look good across the board, it can be tough though if you're not good with css and php (especially css).

OR...

Go to http://www.joomlart.com and purchase their package which gives you like 5 templates of your choice for download. Their templates are completely browser compliant and are guaranteed to work on everything. Nice stuff too!

I'm to the point with Joomla where I develop my own custom templates but it takes a lot of time to make good ones.

@dentauthorApr 08.2007 — #Hello!

Thank you for the valuable info. I will try to change the templates and try as you said.

Might look in to the coding when I have more time.

You might want to take a look at my latest site. A site for hosting ment for spanish public but it also has the option to read and see everything in english.

http://www.solucionesweb-ecom.com

Its not finished yet but it is a better template and easier to work with.

Im translating stuff at max right now ;P

Unfortunately I installed Mambo before I knew about joomla and Im not very content so I would like to migrate.

I know I kind of stepped away from the threads subject but as you are experienced in joomla maybe you have some advice Mike.

Or anybody else ofc.

Thank you again.

dent

@launchpad67aApr 10.2007 — #I've used that template you're using. It's about as well a written template as you'll find anywhere. It's works perfectly with all browsers. There is a lot to it though and you'll have to hunt around to make customizations easier for you.

Looks like you're on the right track though!

BTW, you should be using Joomla instead of Mambo. They are nearly identical but the database prefixes are different (mos_ and jos_). There is probably some free tool available to "switch" the sites and rewrite the database.

@dentauthorMay 03.2007 — #Launchpad said:

" 4) Hard code your entire flash section into a Table within the page. Your flash code should include sizes for every movie you are using."

Could you give me a tip on how the hardcoding of the content in joomla is made.

@launchpad67aMay 03.2007 — #What I mean by hard coding is:

1) Turn off the wysiwyg editor in the site configuration panel

2) Open the page (where you want to place flash) as normal to edit.

3) Create a <table ...... where you want to place the flash movie

4) Paste all the flash code into this table

5) close the table tags and test it.

Here's an example page code:

[CODE]<table>
 <tr>
 <td>
 <object classid="clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000" codebase="http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=8,0,0,0" width="450" height="100" id="countdown" align="middle"><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="sameDomain" /><param name="movie" value="countdown.swf" /><param name="quality" value="high" /><param name="bgcolor" value="#000000" /><embed src="countdown.swf" quality="high" bgcolor="#000000" width="450" height="100" name="countdown" align="middle" allowScriptAccess="sameDomain" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer" />
 </embed></object>
 </td>
 </tr>
 </table>[/CODE]

You might want to use an exact url to your movie on this line:

param name="movie" value="http://www.yoursite.com/countdown.swf"

Just so it knows where to find the swf file on the server.

@dentauthorMay 04.2007 — #Yep looks good, perfect thank you!

Im learning everyday and I found another solution also.

I made a pure html page that I uploaded in a folder on the same server and then I used the wrapper function to make it look the same as before, but now I could squeeze in some ads in the text.

look -> dcforge dc info

and thats just the start, it didnt take me long to do it.

But I will try your way now and later probably use both depending on the situation.

thx

dent

:rolleyes:

@launchpad67aMay 04.2007 — #Yes, the wrapper might be the single greatest feature. I use it all the time.

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