Links not showing when site is live

@jhamptonMar 31.2007

I have a website in which I display affiliate links in tables. I am still very new at this and am highly frustrated at the moment 😮 . I originally had one table which was centered and spanned 100% and had numerous links in it .. it worked fine and the links are still displaying. I was trying to modify the site and add tables to the right and left. The tables appear and the links appear as I build the site but when I upload the site only one of the links appear all of the others don’t show up at all. I get the link info (source code) from cj.com; it’s a cut/paste thing. I cannot figure out what’s going on. There should be about 15 links. I was thinking that there was a problem with the writing of thetable code (site is html) but the one table is showing the one link. Anyone have any idea what the problem is .. any and all help would be greatly appreciated!!

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@ray326Mar 31.2007 — #Without seeing the site, no.

@jhamptonauthorMar 31.2007 — #Hi Ray,

www.creditcardmarketonline.com is the site ..

@ray326Mar 31.2007 — #You're not talking about the grid of credit cards at the top?

@jhamptonauthorMar 31.2007 — #No, all the credit card links seem to be fine, it's the two tables on either side .. there's one for financial services and one for featured affiliates .. none of the links for financial services are showing and only one of the featured affiliates ..

@WebJoelMar 31.2007 — #With 18 "errors" and 271 "warnings", -not sure if there is anything anyone can do until the code is cleaned-up a bit, but here is a big clue:

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">

<HTML>[B]<HEAD title=ROR href="ror.xml" type="application/rss+xml" rel="alternate"[/B]

<link><TITLE>Welcome to Credit Card Market Online!</TITLE>

<META name="description" content="Credit Cards All Ma...

-There is no 'close' for the "<head>" tag... essentially, the entire page is 'in the <head>'...

And there is a "<link>" there before "<TITLE>", -doing nothing... ?

Add "/>" at the end of the [B]BOLD[/B] text solves the first problem. ?

You got the code from where? Mistakes are theirs? ?

@jhamptonauthorApr 01.2007 — #Hi Joel and thanks for taking the time to take a look and respond ?

I have corrected the errors you pointed out .. I put the </head> tag before the very first table .. it was following <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2995" name=GENERATOR> .. this will be ok right ???

I also took out the <link> (I don't know where that came from) and I put the </b> after the Welcome to ..

How did you find the 18 errors and 271 warnings???

I got the source codes for the links from cj.com .. these are the ones that don't show .. the only codes I have written are the table codes .. I don't know but I'm sure the errors are mine .. I just don't know what they are :o

Thanks again for your help! ?

@WebJoelApr 01.2007 — #I use "Firefox" with the extention "HTML Validator by TIDY". It has the ability to 'correct' the "warnings" with just one click, presenting you with 'cleaned code' which you can paste into an editor and test. While cleaning 'warnings' often solves a problem, it often reveals others.

-My opps, -end-of-bold required "[B]>[/B]", not "[B]/[/B]>" (tired when posting last night). Then at end-of <head> section, comes "[B]</head>[/B]". That is what I meant to write. This this:<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">

<HTML><HEAD title=ROR href="ror.xml" type="application/rss+xml" rel="alternate"[SIZE="4"][U]>[/U][/SIZE]

<link><TITLE>Welcome to Credit Card Market Online!</TITLE>

<META name="description" content="Credit Cards All Major Credit Cards; American Express, Mastercard, Visa, Discover. Cards for those with bad credit no credit and students."

<META

name="keywords" content="Credit Cards, credit card, chase credit card, chase credit cards, discover credit card, discover credit cards, ....

[B]</head>[/B][/QUOTE] I also wanted to mention from an SEO point of view that extraneously overused keywords (used for than say, five time per META tag??) do not improve your index-ability. On some search engines, over-use is flagged 'spamming' and the seach engine/'bot drops the sites. I see "credit card" or "credit cards" used some what, -20-times in that META tag? I know that it is a bit ambiguous to not include "credit card" after "Discover" (a noun and verb which could just as easily land you upon "Discover Channel" or "Discover Magazine" web site(s) ), but there is where content reigns king. -Hopefully the [I]content[/I] of the site sways indexability favorably.

I'll look at your page again to see what has improved. And more than 56 words in a META tag is cramming and that too, can scare off some spiders... I really need to find that SEO article from which I refer to so often. :o

@WebJoelApr 01.2007 — #I see that this TABLE expands too much. It should have a width, -like the TABLE above it. I gave it 67% (as TABLE above it has).<TABLE borderColor=#ffcc99 [B]width="67%"[/B] align=center bgColor=#996666 border=10>

<TR bgColor=beige>

<TD>

<UL>

<LI> <a href=http://r.rd01.com/redirect.asp?id=cizkpexl&d=0&l=0&p=0&uid=>Blue from American Express®</a>

<li> Express Approval® - Get Blu...[/QUOTE] I can't see to be anything to show for where the links are.... Something strange going on there. ? Also, -page needs a FULL !doctype, like this:
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"

[B] "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">

<html lang="en">[/B][/QUOTE] although in my testing offline, this made no noticeable difference... ?

@jhamptonauthorApr 01.2007 — #Ok I've gone in and corrected or changed all of what you suggested including deleting a lot of the key words.

I still can't get the links to show which I think is extremely strange since the link that does show is like the 4th or 5th data line in the table. I've tried replacing the links with others but they don't show either. I just can't figure this :mad:

@jhamptonauthorApr 01.2007 — #Ok, I can get links to show from other affiliate programs .. so, it must be a problem with cj.com ..

@WebJoelApr 01.2007 — #Ok, I can get links to show from other affiliate programs .. so, it must be a problem with cj.com ..[/QUOTE] I didn't think of that... I do know and mentioned that if you 'refresh' and watch very closely, you can see a list of text-links for about a half-second before it disappears. -Might it be that the images are 'unavailable'? Strange though that this seems to work in one browser and not another... ?

@jhamptonauthorApr 01.2007 — #it is strange .. never had a problem with cj before .. I've sent them an email so maybe I can get it worked out. I'm just glad to know it's not my table coding .. THANKS A LOT for your help !! I [B]really[/B] appreciate you looking at my site and pointing out problems :p

Thanks again,

JHampton

@WebJoelApr 01.2007 — #That site could really benefit from a good table-less redesign... you know that. ? I suppose that right now you just want to get it working. & thanks. ?

@jhamptonauthorApr 02.2007 — #Yes I know .. but .. I have no idea how to redesign it .. tables are the only thing I know how to do right now :rolleyes: I play with webdesign all the time so hopefully, soon, I'll figure out something else and make it look a little better .. any suggestions ???

@WebJoelApr 02.2007 — #Your links seem to be showing today. ? Site looks good on 1024-width but I am sure that you noticed that on 800-width, the "Featured Affiliates" column (or TABLE?) on the right slides behind the center content...

-I'll copy your code and try to emulate a non-TABLE version and see if we can prevent that slide-thing, and maybe be multi-resolution friendly. It will probably be a bit faster loading too. I'll run a speed-check on it before & after, and share the results.

-Might take me a day or two, -Mondays are usually full for me and Tuesday I share my computer (don't get much time on computer until after 6-PM on Tuesdays). :o

@WebJoelApr 02.2007 — #I re-did this completely, got it looking 99% like what you have except the code is easier to read now, it is TABLE-less (saving quite a bit of redundant 'align="center" and border="0", width="foo" and height="foo" ' etc, as these can ALL be declared from just one line using CSS since they are the same W & H and have 'no border').

This page works on 800-width (and higher, of course) resolution without loss-of-view of affiliate ads.

In Firefox, the 'fourth-from-top and below' image links seem to work sometimes and other times, not. They 'are disappeared' sometimes... ? -Wondering if the affiliate(s) are messing around with the links or something(??) while I am trying to test this.

I note that the actual images used seem to be from your site... I made them be "absolute path" URLs so that I could test this 'offline'. If this works, I'd leave them that way. Three quarters of the time I spent on this re-build was getting the cut&paste and absolute-paths figured out. ? (You did all the hard work, -I am mostly just copy & pasting into a new CSS outerwear suite).

It is Validated, -no errors or warnings (you get a TIDY icon for that!). Still doing tweakages and such here. Lunch time!

Should be able to ZIP this back to you later tonight... ?

@WebJoelApr 02.2007 — #([I]gosh I miss being able to edit/add to a post beyond the 30-minute marker[/I].. :rolleyes: ) I tweaked a few pixels here and there, it's looking fairly decent. I still cannot figure out why that one right-hand image 'fourth from top' I guess it is, refuses to show on Fx. It shows fine on IE. It is the image that wants to be 100px by 100px, instead of the 'normal' 120px by 60px like the rest... ?

I left populatiig the bottom DIVs for you (if you even want to use this non-TABLE redux). It you cannot populate the sub-content DIVs '[I]table-free[/I]', let me know and I can continue with it tomorrow. -It would be no problem at all).

Everything should be self-adjusting for width and 100% heights.

Enjoy!

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